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Editor’s Corner
Mary Joyce, website editor

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“SPY IN THE SKY – Secrets and cover-ups on Earth and beyond”

These are the front and back covers of my brand-new book. It is packed with visual evidence of secrets and cover-ups discovered ● on Mars ● on our Moon ● in Antarctica ● on ocean floors ● on NASA space missions ● around our Sun. Extraordinarily detailed photos of humongous UFOs flying near the Sun are included that have never been published before.

I discovered these SECRETS and COVER-UPS while doing research for this website and it became clear I was finding things the United States government doesn’t want the public to know. Why? Because as soon as some of those discoveries were posted on the website, they were blurred, distorted or completely wiped off satellite images on Google Earth.

The book is packed with full-color photos and has been printed in a large format and on high-quality paper so everyone clearly can see the visual evidence that BIG SECRETS are being hidden from the public. – Mary Joyce

The book is available on Amazon.  To get to the listing easily, type “SPY IN THE SKY MARY JOYCE” in the Amazon search bar. – Mary Joyce



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The Unexplained with Howard Hughes – I was on this show on May 16, 2022 with seasoned broadcaster Howard Hughes who has a radio show, a podcast and a new TV show in London.  Our conversation starts 5:11 minutes into the show. We talked about discoveries on Mars, the Moon and the latest developments at a secret underground facility in the North Carolina Mountains. We also talked about swamp apes, teeny-tiny little people and UFOs that circled John Lennon’s tower of light memorial.


Paranormal Now – On May 13, 2022, I was on this show with host Alan B. Smith. Our conversation starts about 4:38 minutes into the show.  The primary theme was Bigfoot’s human-like qualities and behavior, but we also talked about very tiny little people, giants, swamp apes and evidence of human activity on Mars.


Strange Planet – I was on this show with host Richard Syrett the first week of May 2022. We talked about many things including:

● UFOs circling John Lennon’s memorial
● Swamp Ape videos that look genuine
● An authenticated tiny humanoid mummy
● New digging at a secret facility
● Giant UFO on ocean floor
● Blood-red cover-up on Mars.


UFO…No! – I was on this show with host Ben Austin on May 1, 2022.  We talked about many subjects including:

● New digging at secret underground facility in North Carolina ● Underground maglev train tunnels ● The building and cover-up of a secret facility beneath the Great Smoky Mountains National Park ● The BRAINS and BRAWN government teams who hide ET truth from the public ● Nazi involvement in USA, South America and Antarctica.


Night-Light Radio – I was on this show with host Barbara DeLong on March 30, 2022 and shared stories about contemporary encounters with toddler-size Little People in North Carolina, Tennessee and South Dakota.  Our conversation begins 3:20 minutes into the show. We did go off topic and talked about giants but near the end of our conversation, I shared three more contemporary Little People stories.


The Unexplained with Howard Hughes – I was on this London radio show on February 6, 2022. As the second guest for the evening, our conversation started about 31 minutes into the show. Since Hughes is in England, I was surprised when he requested that I talk about my book “Underground Bases Hidden in North Carolina Mountains.”

Conspiracy Unlimited – I was on this Toronto-based radio show on November 1, 2021 with host Richard Syrett who also is a regular substitute host on “Coast to Coast AM.”  We talked about newly discovered pre-ice cities in Antarctica that are emerging now from the melting ice. ● We also talked about an old, but newly revealed, taped interview with Dr. Shirley Wright who accompanied Einstein to Roswell in 1947 and saw and heard two of the ETs speak.  ● And, we talked about a man who broke his Cosmic Top-Secret clearance to tell the public the truth about ETs and mankind’s future.

Ancient Mysteries/The Cryptid Report – I was on this show talking about Bigfoot human-like qualities and their families with host Jim Harold on October 2, 2021.  We covered a lot of information in this fast-moving half-hour show.  It’s worth mentioning that Jim has a big following and his archived shows have been downloaded over 50 million times.

This baby Bigfoot drawing is by Alex Evans and is on display at the Exhibition Bigfoot Museum which is south of Blue Ridge, Georgia on Highway 515.


Night-Light Radio – I was on this show with host Barbara DeLong on August 28, 2021.  Following a nice introduction, the conversation begins about four minutes into the show.

After my book “Cherokee Little People Were Real” was published, people realized I was taking the subject seriously.  As a result, people have opened up and told me about their encounters with Little People who still live in remote areas of the country today.  This show is devoted to some of those stories.


Paranormal Experienced - On August 11, 2021, I was on this Birmingham, Alabama radio show with host Kat Hobson.  The main topic was secrets I’ve discovered on Mars
● Contemporary entrances ● Biospheres ● Spacecraft parked on the surface of the planet. Plus, I explain how anyone can find these discoveries for him or herself. The actual conversation begins at the 4:20 minute mark and runs until the end of the first hour of the two-hour show.


Strange Harbor –On June 6, 2021, I was on this terrestrial radio show on KBKW which serves the greater Aberdeen, Washington area and Grays Harbor on the Pacific Coast.

I’ve been on this show before with host Johnny Manson, but this time his co-host Cherie De Sues, who is a certified MUFON investigator, asked most of the questions. Because of her own scientific training and research, she opened the door to a free-flowing conversation about a wide array of topics.

Coast to Coast AM – On the night July 3, 2021, I was on this show with host Richard Syrett. The first hour was devoted to Dr. Wernher von Braun’s private revelations about Mars and ETs that he shared with Clark McClelland who worked with Dr. von Braun on the Saturn 1 missions at NASA.  We also talked about NASA secrets McClelland reveal in his book “SPACE! THE FINAL FRONTIER – Secrets NASA doesn’t want you to know” which was published less than a month after his death on April 22, 2021.

It is always an honor to be on “Coast” which is one of the top-ten radio talk shows in the USA and the only one dealing with cutting-edge or paranormal topics not usually covered by mainstream media.  For members of the Coast Insiders Club who have access to the show’s archives, I also have been a guest on ● December 28, 2020 ● February 26, 2019 ● July 4, 2019 ● July 17, 2017.


Conspiracy Unlimited – I was on this Toronto-based radio show with host Richard Syrett on Monday, March 15, 2021.  The main topic was Google Earth/Mars evidence of contemporary structures on Mars. Two of many entrances into the planet’s interior are shown above. We also talked about recent undersea discoveries of ancient civilizations and the building of a secret facility beneath a remote section of the Great Smoky Mountains National Park.


Dudes and Beer – When this show originated, it was just Chris Jordan and some of his friends discussing all sorts of topics around a microphone.  Since then, the show has evolved.  Now, Chris is a solo host who brings on a wide variety of guests with expertise in their fields, but the original show name has remained.

On February 23, 2021, I was a guest on the show and we talked about deep underground military bases (DUMBs) in the North Carolina Mountains.  Our conversation begins 8:29 minutes into the show.

Blurry Creatures - This February 17, 2021 show was a three-way conversation with hosts Nate Henry (L) and Luke Rodgers (R) who is a former NFL analyst for CBS sports and brother of Aaron Rodgers, quarterback for the Green Bay Packers.

We covered a wide variety of topics starting with Bigfoot and Cherokee Little People and then about: ● Astronauts and ETs on Mars ● Google images of entrances and biospheres on Mars ● How some ETs pass as humans ● Astronaut who saw an ET ● German involvement in USA space program and more.

Beyond Reality
– I was on this podcast with host JV Johnson on January 13, 2021.  It is posted on many platforms but we’ve linked the YouTube version so you can watch JV during the interview.

JV is a seasoned broadcaster who has owned multiple radio stations so he ably directed the conversation through many subjects including some of my personal experiences doing a bit of undercover work in Detroit and talking to an astronaut who saw an alien.

So, we had many discussions beyond the chosen subject for the show: Google Earth’s hidden secrets beneath the sea, on Mars and in Antarctica.


Mysteries and Monsters – On December 28, 2020, I was a guest on this show which is based in Sheffield, England and hosted by Paul Bestall.
Though the topic was information from my book “Cherokee Little People Were Real,” I also shared more recent encounters people have had with Little People and an ancient Irish connection to Little People in the USA.

Night-Light Radio – I was on this show on December 22, 2020 with host Barbara DeLong.  We talked about evidence of ancient undersea civilizations off the coasts of California, Japan and Florida. We also talked about the land known as LEMURIA, MU or PAN which legends say sank into the Pacific Ocean in ancient time. The conversation begins 4:25 minutes into the show. 

Conflict Radio – I was on this show on September 22, 2020 with host Michael Kopczynski.  We talked about my book “Cherokee Little People Were Real” as well as contemporary stories of face-to-face encounters with Little People. Jarred Murphy, another Little People researcher, turned the show into a three-way discussion which starts 2:20 minutes into the show.

Conspiracy Unlimited
– I was on this Toronto-based radio show with host Richard Syrett on July 31, 2020.  Many know him as a regular back-up host for George Noory on “Coast to Coast AM.”

Before we got into our conversation about people’s encounters with Tall Blue and Reptilian ETs, I shared some of my experiences investigating the Mafia in Detroit. After that, we had a free-flowing conversation about many topics: ● ETs at NASA ● Tall and short Grey ETs ● Recent activity at a secret facility beneath the Smoky Mountains ● Bigfoot on Mt. Rainier and more.

Night-Light Radio – I was on this show with host Barbara Delong on May 27, 2020.  We talked about Tall White ETs, Grey ETs and face-to-face encounters one Army specialist had with them.

Barbara provides a very kind introduction, but our actual conversation starts about 4:42 minutes into the show.

Conspiracy Unlimited
– I was on this Toronto-based radio show on May 1, 2020 with host Richard Syrett who also is a regular substitute host on “Coast to Coast AM.” 

We talked about Bigfoot behavior, my newest book “BIGFOOT – Beyond the Footprints,” a new style of Men in Black, and multiple reports of lines of UFOs in the sky.


Night-Light Radio – Miracles were the only things we talked about on this February 19, 2020 show with host Barbara DeLong. We felt it would be an uplifting subject when so much in our world is chaotic and often negative.  If you would like to skip the introduction, go to the audio bar at the top of the page and begin listening at the 4:24-minute mark.  Click on the black portion of the bar to advance forward into the show.




Paranormal Experienced
– I was on this show with host Kat Hobson on January 29, 2020.  The primary topic was Bigfoot and my latest book “BIGFOOT – Beyond the footprints.”

If you’re short on time, the discussion on Bigfoot starts at 5:58 minutes into the show.  The subject of Antarctica begins at the 103:28-minute mark.

(L) Kat is shown in this photo with George Noory, host of “Coast to Coast AM.”


Night-Light Radio – On this November 13, 2019 show with host Barbara Delong, we talked about Jesus’ uncle who played an important role throughout Jesus’ life.  There are records of this relationship in the Jewish Talmud, the ancient Harleian Manuscripts, the Roman mining region of England and in the records of the Eastern Orthodox Church which is older than the Western or Roman Church.


Night-Light Radio - I was on this show with host Barbara Delong on October 16, 2019 talking about my latest book "BIGFOOT - Beyond the footprints." If you already know about my background, then start listening at the 4:35 minute mark.

"There is so much to know about the Bigfoot than their footprints. They have families. They have made friends with some humans. They have helped and even rescued people in trouble. They have preferences, language, and unique biology." - Mary Joyce


Lost River Legends – On March 2, 2019, I was on this radio show with host James Teerlink. We talked about many subjects including: ● unexpected discovery of a secret facility beneath a hydrologic laboratory ● Antarctica discoveries ● top Cabal members hide in plain sight ● evidence of new activity at secret underground facility ● UFOs seen around secret underground facilities ● Bigfoot stories including our new movie script and a printed message by a Bigfoot for dolphin expert Joan Ocean. 

July 4, 2019 - I was on “Coast to Coast AM” with George Noory for hours three and four of the show. In hour three, our conversation flowed in and out of many subjects from the website and from my books. Hour four primarily focused on my book “Tangible evidence of Jesus.” He even questioned me about the true nature of the Resurrection and the possibility of Jesus being an extraterrestrial.

February 26, 2019 - We talked about Bigfoot and mysteries in Antarctica.

NOTE: “Coast to coast AM” is the most listened to overnight radio program in North America, but once the live shows are broadcasted, you have to join the “Coast Insiders Club” to hear past shows. The underlined link will take you to the sign-up site. And, yes, there is a minimal fee of $6.95 for a month’s membership.

If you get into the show’s archives, I also was a guest on July 17, 2017.  In the last hour of the four-hour show, we talked about my book “Tangible Evidence of Jesus left behind for us to find.”  Then on July 12, 2014, I was on the show with host George Knapp talking about my book “Cherokee Little People Were Real.”


Conspiracy Unlimited – I was on this show on Jan. 23, 2019 with host Richard Syrett who is a popular Toronto talk show host as well as a back-up host for George Noory on “Coast to Coast AM.” We covered many topics including new digging at a secret underground facility in North Carolina, noteworthy activity in Antarctica, reptilian/Nazi alliance, flights to the Moon before WWII, giant owls associated with alien abductions and more.




Intrepid Radio – Many people know co-host Scotty Roberts from his appearances on the History Channel’s “Ancient Alien” program. Since his co-host was in Europe on October 18, 2015, it was just the two of us so it was a very natural back and forth conversation that sometimes dipped into subjects we hadn’t anticipated.



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Reality Check – I was on this show on March 10, 2022 with host Jay Weidner.  We both have done research on ancient races of Little People so it was a true discussion.  Before Jay posted the show, he added a short video he made of ancient Little People’s stone huts in the mountains near his home in Colorado. One of those huts is shown above.


Typical Skeptic – I was on this video podcast with host Robert Kalil on January 20, 2022. We talked about Cherokee Little People, Antarctica, Mars and Bigfoot.


3 Beards Podcast – I was on this show with Craig Ansell, the “lead beard,” on December 1, 2021.  We talked about a number of Deep Underground Military Bases (DUMBs) and underground transportation tunnels around the country with an emphasis on those in the mountains of North Carolina. The live show has since been posted on 15 audio podcast platforms but this link is to the video of the show that was posted on YouTube.


Typical Skeptic – On August 18, 2021, I was on this show with host Robert Kalil. I talked about information Dr. Wernher von Braun revealed in private conversations with Astronaut/Spacecraft Operator Clark McClelland about Mars, UFOs, Aliens and Nazis.

I have a personal interest in this story. I met Clark and heard his account of how the government destroyed his 35-year career with NASA because he bucked the system. For example, he believed the public had a right to know about extraterrestrials visiting Earth.  His photo above with Astronaut Judith Resnik was taken during the time I was living near the Kennedy Space Center and got to meet Clark.  Judith is one of the astronauts killed in the Space Shuttle Challenger disaster in 1986.



Nite Callers Bigfoot Radio – This actually was a live video interview on January 17, 2021 with host Lauren Smith who is a second-generation Bigfoot researcher.  She began doing investigations as a pre-teen with her mother who was one of the first female Bigfoot investigators in the South.  After her retirement, she still continues her investigations.



The Leak Project – I was on this live stream show on January 9, 2020 with host Rex Bear whose YouTube channel alone has 330,000 subscribers. It was a free-flowing conversation covering many different subjects.  Before the show ended, he put on one of his tinfoil caps and light-heartedly explained how it actually blocks EMF and 5G radiation.

The Edge Broadcast – I was on this show with host Daniel Ott on November 16, 2019.  We primarily talked about Bigfoot and recent whistleblower information from NASA insiders about Antarctica and Planet X.  We touched on other topics too.


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Mysterious Outpost TV – Michael, the host of the show, and I covered many topics on November 22, 2017 including: the night UFOs filled the sky over Sylva, NC; Cabal secrets told by a man with Cosmic Top Security clearance; military and alien abductions and mind control; a man’s account of spacecraft beneath Edwards AFB and his conversations with Buzz Aldrin and Henry Kissinger about aliens on the Moon.

mary Other realities in Jackson County, NC – This is a lecture I gave to a hometown audience at the Jackson County Public Library in Sylva, NC on October 19, 2017 about Bigfoot, Cherokee Little People, UFOs and secret underground bases in Jackson County.
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UFOs and Apparitions – Witness testimony by Glynis Heenan
Those who are familiar with our website, know Glynis Heenan has provided us with photos of many different kinds of UFOs that have appeared over the mountaintop community of Cashiers, NC.  It’s not well known that on occasion she has seen remarkable apparitions.

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EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW – This is the first time Robert of Ohio talks publicly about his venture into a vast and secret underground facility beneath Edwards Air Force Base in California.  It drastically changed his life.  After that, he had unexpected and revelatory conversations with Astronaut Buzz Aldrin and Henry Kissinger who at that time was National Security Advisor for the Nixon administration.


EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW - This is a true story of two kids who grew up on Wright-Patterson Air Force Base in Ohio and got their hands on some magical metal from the UFO that crashed in Roswell, New Mexico in 1947.

They didn’t just see or touch the metal; they tested the magical metal in many inventive ways.  What they discovered has been their secret since 1957.  Now, 59 years later, “Jill” has decided it’s safe to share the most memorable adventure of her life.

Cherokee Little People Were Real –This presentation was given at the Henderson County Heritage Museum in Hendersonville, NC on November 8, 2014.  The 38:12 minute video was taped by the museum.

Mary Joyce on the base at Pisgah – In this video, I talk about a secret underground military facility beneath the Balsam Ridge in Western North Carolina. It was taped in 2010 at the International UFO Congress in Laughlin, Nevada by Miles Johnson, a documentary filmmaker from Great Britain. This is version two because the first one mysteriously disappeared from the Internet. 
Sky Ships and Cosmic Spirituality – This is an hour long presentation Evelyn Gordon and I made at the International UFO Congress in Laughlin, Nevada in 2010.  It is the largest UFO conference in the world.




big pencil Books I've Written . . .

All my books are 8.5 x 11 inches in size and available through Amazon.
If you prefer to support an independent bookstore, then contact City Lights Bookstore in
Sylva, NC at 828-586-9499.


“BIGFOOT – Beyond the footprints” ~ There is so much more to know about the Bigfoot than their footprints.  They have families. They have made friends with some humans. They have helped and even rescued people in trouble. They have preferences, language and unique biology. This book presents all this and more as reported by eyewitnesses and research scientists. The book is visually appealing too.  There are color photos throughout the book.  It has a glossy cover and the pages are printed on high-quality paper. It easily qualifies as a coffee-table book . . . and a great conversation starter.

“Underground Military Bases Hidden in North Carolina Mountains” ~ There are military bases hidden beneath North Carolina’s mountains that most people have never heard about.  Remarkably, they are located near well-known tourist attractions: ● Great Smoky Mountains National Park ● Mount Mitchell State Park ● Linville Gorge ● Devil’s Courthouse on the Blue Ridge Parkway ● Chimney Rock State Park.  Yet, the underground facilities are so well camouflaged that few people know they exist. The information is mostly from those with military, law enforcement and high-security backgrounds.

“Cherokee Little People Were Real” ~ I wrote this book to help preserve a unique bit of American history that was about to disappear forever.  The book features testimonies of men who discovered ancient little tunnels, small skeletons and even a child-size skull with all its wisdom teeth when they were working on early construction projects at Western Carolina University in Cullowhee, NC.  Discoveries also were made at old moonshine and mining sites south of the campus. The book features lots of photos, including one of an intriguing face on an ancient metal oval. Other area mysteries – Judaculla Rock, Judaculla Giant and Bigfoot – are included.  Discovery sites are clearly pointed out on maps.

“Tangible evidence of Jesus left behind for us to find” ~ This was written for those who would like proof of Jesus beyond what is recorded in Christian Bibles.  It is intended to be a bridge between scholarly researchers and scientists and most of the rest of us.  The writing style deliberately is condensed and to the point for easy reading.  There are plenty of photos, art and graphics to help bring the information to life. I call it a picture book for adults because there are visuals on nearly every page.


CLICK HERE to read a chapter from “Tangible evidence of Jesus. . .” about Jesus’ travels in the Far East.  It was posted on the Dublin-based “Ancient Origins” website which features the latest archaeological findings as well as out-of-the-box perspectives on science, archaeology, mythology, religion and history around the globe.

The above four books are available through Amazon and
City Lights Bookstore in Sylva, NC at



A brief bio . . .

In addition to editing this website, I’ve worked for The Orlando Sentinel in Florida as an artist and columnist and The Oakland Press in Michigan as a Sunday magazine editor and then feature editor.

Because of this website and the books I’ve written, I’ve been a frequent guest on radio and TV shows including “Coast to Coast AM” which has an audience of about 3 million listeners, The Travel Channel and Internet TV shows in Ireland and Australia.

In addition to writing, my career includes working for a major metropolitan air pollution control agency, a community college, eight successful political campaigns, the world’s largest private printing company and a Fortune 100 company where I worked directly with many creative teams including those at Marvel Comics, Golden Books, Mr. Rogers, Berenstain Bears and Steven Spielberg’s “ET” book staff.


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