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Editor’s Corner
Mary Joyce, website editor

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Conspiracy Unlimited – I was on this Toronto-based radio show with host Richard Syrett on Monday, March 15, 2021.  The main topic was Google Earth/Mars evidence of contemporary structures on Mars. Two of many entrances into the planet’s interior are shown above. We also talked about recent undersea discoveries of ancient civilizations and the building of a secret facility beneath a remote section of the Great Smoky Mountains National Park.

Dudes and Beer – When this show originated, it was just Chris Jordan and some of his friends discussing all sorts of topics around a microphone.  Since then, the show has evolved.  Now, Chris is a solo host who brings on a wide variety of guests with expertise in their fields, but the original show name has remained.

On February 23, 2021, I was a guest on the show and we talked about deep underground military bases (DUMBs) in the North Carolina Mountains.  Our conversation begins 8:29 minutes into the show.


Blurry Creatures - This February 17, 2021 show was a three-way conversation with hosts Nate Henry (L) and Luke Rodgers (R) who is a former NFL analyst for CBS sports and brother of Aaron Rodgers, quarterback for the Green Bay Packers.

We covered a wide variety of topics starting with Bigfoot and Cherokee Little People and then about: ● Astronauts and ETs on Mars ● Google images of entrances and biospheres on Mars ● How some ETs pass as humans ● Astronaut who saw an ET ● German involvement in USA space program and more.


Beyond Reality – I was on this podcast with host JV Johnson on January 13, 2021.  It is posted on many platforms but we’ve linked the YouTube version so you can watch JV during the interview.

JV is a seasoned broadcaster who has owned multiple radio stations so he ably directed the conversation through many subjects including some of my personal experiences doing a bit of undercover work in Detroit and talking to an astronaut who saw an alien.

So, we had many discussions beyond the chosen subject for the show: Google Earth’s hidden secrets beneath the sea, on Mars and in Antarctica.


Coast to Coast AM – On the night of December 28-29, 2020, I was on this show with host George Noory. I shared some of my Google Earth discoveries of ancient ruins off the coast of California and evidence of unique contemporary structures on Mars and Antarctica. It is my intention to encourage more people to use Google Earth as a detective tool or archaeological research tool.

It is always an honor to be on the “Coast” which is one of the top-ten radio talk shows in the USA and the only one dealing with cutting-edge or paranormal topics not usually covered by mainstream media.  For members of the Coast Insiders Club who have access to the show’s archives, I also have been a guest on ● February 26, 2019 ● July 4, 2019 ● July 17, 2017.

Mysteries and Monsters – On December 28, 2020, I was a guest on this show which is based in Sheffield, England and hosted by Paul Bestall.
Though the topic was information from my book “Cherokee Little People Were Real,” I also shared more recent encounters people have had with Little People and an ancient Irish connection to Little People in the USA.

Night-Light Radio – I was on this show on December 22, 2020 with host Barbara DeLong.  We talked about evidence of ancient undersea civilizations off the coasts of California, Japan and Florida. We also talked about the land known as LEMURIA, MU or PAN which legends say sank into the Pacific Ocean in ancient time. The conversation begins 4:25 minutes into the show. 

Conflict Radio – I was on this show on September 22, 2020 with host Michael Kopczynski.  We talked about my book “Cherokee Little People Were Real” as well as contemporary stories of face-to-face encounters with Little People. Jarred Murphy, another Little People researcher, turned the show into a three-way discussion which starts 2:20 minutes into the show.

Conspiracy Unlimited
– I was on this Toronto-based radio show with host Richard Syrett on July 31, 2020.  Many know him as a regular back-up host for George Noory on “Coast to Coast AM.”

Before we got into our conversation about people’s encounters with Tall Blue and Reptilian ETs, I shared some of my experiences investigating the Mafia in Detroit. After that, we had a free-flowing conversation about many topics: ● ETs at NASA ● Tall and short Grey ETs ● Recent activity at a secret facility beneath the Smoky Mountains ● Bigfoot on Mt. Rainier and more.

Night-Light Radio – I was on this show with host Barbara Delong on May 27, 2020.  We talked about Tall White ETs, Grey ETs and face-to-face encounters one Army specialist had with them.

Barbara provides a very kind introduction, but our actual conversation starts about 4:42 minutes into the show.

Conspiracy Unlimited
– I was on this Toronto-based radio show on May 1, 2020 with host Richard Syrett who also is a regular substitute host on “Coast to Coast AM.” 

We talked about Bigfoot behavior, my newest book “BIGFOOT – Beyond the Footprints,” a new style of Men in Black, and multiple reports of lines of UFOs in the sky.


Night-Light Radio – Miracles were the only things we talked about on this February 19, 2020 show with host Barbara DeLong. We felt it would be an uplifting subject when so much in our world is chaotic and often negative.  If you would like to skip the introduction, go to the audio bar at the top of the page and begin listening at the 4:24-minute mark.  Click on the black portion of the bar to advance forward into the show.


Task Force Gryphon(We have fixed the link to this show.) I was on this show with incognito military man Commander Cobra on February 9, 2020.  For the first time, I talked publicly about Google Earth images of underground entrances into Antarctica and Mars being obliterated or blurred after we’ve posted them on our website.  After that, we had a free-flowing conversation about many other topics.

Paranormal Experienced
– I was on this show with host Kat Hobson on January 29, 2020.  The primary topic was Bigfoot and my latest book “BIGFOOT – Beyond the footprints.”

If you’re short on time, the discussion on Bigfoot starts at 5:58 minutes into the show.  The subject of Antarctica begins at the 103:28-minute mark.

(L) Kat is shown in this photo with George Noory, host of “Coast to Coast AM.”


Night-Light Radio – On this November 13, 2019 show with host Barbara Delong, we talked about Jesus’ uncle who played an important role throughout Jesus’ life.  There are records of this relationship in the Jewish Talmud, the ancient Harleian Manuscripts, the Roman mining region of England and in the records of the Eastern Orthodox Church which is older than the Western or Roman Church.


Night-Light Radio - I was on this show with host Barbara Delong on October 16, 2019 talking about my latest book "BIGFOOT - Beyond the footprints." If you already know about my background, then start listening at the 4:35 minute mark.

"There is so much to know about the Bigfoot than their footprints. They have families. They have made friends with some humans. They have helped and even rescued people in trouble. They have preferences, language, and unique biology." - Mary Joyce

Bigfoot and Company - On February 25, 2019, I was on this radio show with hosts Dr. John Stamey (L) and Matt Delph.  Their weekly program is totally devoted to the subject of Bigfoot.  Once on the radio website, you will need to scroll down to the February 25 date.

Dr. John also is director of the Georgia Bigfoot Conference in Clayton, GA (April 26-27) and the Tennessee Bigfoot Conference in Kingsport, TN (October 25-27).

Lost River Legends – On March 2, 2019, I was on this radio show with host James Teerlink. We talked about many subjects including: ● unexpected discovery of a secret facility beneath a hydrologic laboratory ● Antarctica discoveries ● top Cabal members hide in plain sight ● evidence of new activity at secret underground facility ● UFOs seen around secret underground facilities ● Bigfoot stories including our new movie script and a printed message by a Bigfoot for dolphin expert Joan Ocean. 

July 4, 2019 - I was on “Coast to Coast AM” with George Noory for hours three and four of the show. In hour three, our conversation flowed in and out of many subjects from the website and from my books. Hour four primarily focused on my book “Tangible evidence of Jesus.” He even questioned me about the true nature of the Resurrection and the possibility of Jesus being an extraterrestrial.

February 26, 2019 - We talked about Bigfoot and mysteries in Antarctica.

NOTE: “Coast to coast AM” is the most listened to overnight radio program in North America, but once the live shows are broadcasted, you have to join the “Coast Insiders Club” to hear past shows. The underlined link will take you to the sign-up site. And, yes, there is a minimal fee of $6.95 for a month’s membership.

If you get into the show’s archives, I also was a guest on July 17, 2017.  In the last hour of the four-hour show, we talked about my book “Tangible Evidence of Jesus left behind for us to find.”  Then on July 12, 2014, I was on the show with host George Knapp talking about my book “Cherokee Little People Were Real.”


Conspiracy Unlimited – I was on this show on Jan. 23, 2019 with host Richard Syrett who is a popular Toronto talk show host as well as a back-up host for George Noory on “Coast to Coast AM.” We covered many topics including new digging at a secret underground facility in North Carolina, noteworthy activity in Antarctica, reptilian/Nazi alliance, flights to the Moon before WWII, giant owls associated with alien abductions and more.

Quantum Mindfulness Radio
- I was on this show on December 21, 2018 with host Joel Ayala Ayapana.  Because of his curiosity about BIGFOOT, the entire show was devoted to the elusive creatures. 

Throughout the interview, I emphasized that all Bigfoot are not the same.  There are physical, mental and behavioral differences. Yet, all variations of Bigfoot have family units, language, telepathy and an evolved understanding of humans - even the capacity to forgive us.


Night Dreams Talk Radio is a West Coast show hosted by Gary Anderson. A few of his interviews with me are listed below.

Night Dreams Talk Radio (October 25, 2018) - Based on Christopher Columbus’ logbook, some UFO enthusiasts believe he saw a UFO as he approached the Bahamian island of San Salvador on October 12, 1492. I talked about visiting the island one October many centuries later and discovering the real explanation for what Columbus and his crew saw. I also talked about Sioux Bigfoot and Little People stories I recorded on a recent trip to South Dakota.

Night Dreams Talk Radio (September 2, 2018) - Topics included: ● Ancient Orientals in Grand Canyon ● Ancient skeletons/artifacts disappear at Smithsonian ● Sen. McCain helped ET victim ● Supernatural dog on Bigfoot land ● Bigfoot language

Night Dreams Talk Radio (August 1, 2018) – Our conversation started seven minutes into the show. Topics included: ● Russian spies within UFO organizations ● Nazi underground base in Antarctica ● Nazi/reptilian cooperation ● Nazis have gone to the Moon and stars ● Gary’s first-hand interactions with President Reagan and actor James Gardner about space wars ● Nazis may have lost World War II “battle” but maybe winning “the war.”



Spirit Radio – The Paranormal Experience

On March 14, 2018, I was on 106.1 FM radio in Portsmouth, NH with hosts Lynne Nickerson and Willy Hassell. The show also is broadcast on Paranormal UK Radio. ● In the first half hour of the show we talked about the Hawaii missile alert ● Elon Musk’s launch of a Tesla Roadster into space ● A recent discovery of a mystery object in Antarctica ● The vastness of the Atlantean empire and ancient underwater pyramids.

In the second half of the show, we talked about Planet X ● Global warming ● Gigantic UFOs cruising the universe ● John Reeves who had a variety of ET experiences with two kinds of ETs over a six-year period, including flights to the Moon and a planet beyond our galaxy ● A man whose boyhood ET experience inspired the movie “Flight of the Navigator” ● Flu shots.

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Willy Hassell and Lynne Nickerson host “Spirit Radio – The Paranormal Experience”
on WSCA 106.1 FM radio in Portsmouth, New Hampshire.

Spirit Radio – The Paranormal Experience – When I was on this show on March 18, 2017, I spoke for the first time about our website story “Men with axes and guns attack Bigfoot.”  Then we moved on to other Bigfoot topics and listened to an audiotape of a Bigfoot talking.  Another major topic was Antarctica and the clandestine activities there.


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Ohio Exopolitics Radio – On February 24, 2017, host Mark Snider and I cruised through a wide array of topics: the legendary city found beneath the Honduran jungle . . . glacial archaeology finds . . . developments in Antarctica . . . the man who was asked to assassinate Martin Luther King . . . new information on the Biblical Exodus . . . Bigfoot . . . exclusive interviews we’ve posted on our website’s YouTube channel . . . and more.


The Cosmic Switchboard – On January 13, 2017, I was a guest on James Bartley’s show which is based in Australia. He’s very knowledgeable and we covered a lot of topics.  If you’ve heard me talk about Cherokee Little People, you may want to jump to the 5:50 minute mark where I talk about Little People who still live in Eastern Tennessee.  After that we talk about Bigfoot, underground facilities and an Isis camp in North Carolina.

Beyond the Strange –This interview was recorded on November 13, 2016 with host Dave Cruz who is based in Napa Valley, CA.  Because of the length of the show, the starting times for the segments are listed below so you can skip the introduction and commercials.  A few topics talked about in each segment are included.

5:53       ● For the first time on air, I talked about how my interest in secret
                                            Underground bases and UFOs started. 
33:30     ● The focus was on the different kinds of Little People, plus giants.
1:03:12  ● The theme was secret underground facilities in NM, CO and NC.
1:34:40  ● I talked about the Jesus family tomb, physical descriptions of Jesus and his
                 travels with his great uncle, Joseph of Arimathea.


Spirit Radio – The Paranormal Experience – This is a popular program on WSCA 106.1 FM radio based in Portsmouth, New Hampshire.  The two hosts, Lynne and Willy, and I talked about two subjects never before presented on any radio show:

  • our website’s new video about two kids who secretly tested Roswell UFO material, and
  • a recently revealed ancient race of Little People who still live in Eastern Tennessee.
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The Fringe Radio Show
– I was on Salt Lake City’s popular talk radio station (KTKK-630 AM) on April 2, 2016 with host Pat Daniels. We started talking about evidence of life on Mars NOW and then moved on to Bigfoot, hoaxers, underground facilities and aliens.



Far Out Radio
– On March 4, 2016, I was a guest on Scott Teeters’ live radio show out of Lake Placid, Florida.  We covered a variety of topics:  holograms, Project Blue Beam, President Carter’s use of a clairvoyant and the real story of President Lincoln’s birth.


Intrepid Radio – Many people know co-host Scotty Roberts from his appearances on the History Channel’s “Ancient Alien” program. Since his co-host was in Europe on October 18, 2015, it was just the two of us so it was a very natural back and forth conversation that sometimes dipped into subjects we hadn’t anticipated.



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Nite Callers Bigfoot Radio – This actually was a live video interview on January 17, 2021 with host Lauren Smith who is a second-generation Bigfoot researcher.  She began doing investigations as a pre-teen with her mother who was one of the first female Bigfoot investigators in the South.  After her retirement, she still continues her investigations.



The Leak Project – I was on this live stream show on January 9, 2020 with host Rex Bear whose YouTube channel alone has 330,000 subscribers. It was a free-flowing conversation covering many different subjects.  Before the show ended, he put on one of his tinfoil caps and light-heartedly explained how it actually blocks EMF and 5G radiation.

The Edge Broadcast – I was on this show with host Daniel Ott on November 16, 2019.  We primarily talked about Bigfoot and recent whistleblower information from NASA insiders about Antarctica and Planet X.  We touched on other topics too.


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Mysterious Outpost TV – Michael, the host of the show, and I covered many topics on November 22, 2017 including: the night UFOs filled the sky over Sylva, NC; Cabal secrets told by a man with Cosmic Top Security clearance; military and alien abductions and mind control; a man’s account of spacecraft beneath Edwards AFB and his conversations with Buzz Aldrin and Henry Kissinger about aliens on the Moon.

mary Other realities in Jackson County, NC – This is a lecture I gave to a hometown audience at the Jackson County Public Library in Sylva, NC on October 19, 2017 about Bigfoot, Cherokee Little People, UFOs and secret underground bases in Jackson County.
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UFOs and Apparitions – Witness testimony by Glynis Heenan
Those who are familiar with our website, know Glynis Heenan has provided us with photos of many different kinds of UFOs that have appeared over the mountaintop community of Cashiers, NC.  It’s not well known that on occasion she has seen remarkable apparitions.

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EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW – This is the first time Robert of Ohio talks publicly about his venture into a vast and secret underground facility beneath Edwards Air Force Base in California.  It drastically changed his life.  After that, he had unexpected and revelatory conversations with Astronaut Buzz Aldrin and Henry Kissinger who at that time was National Security Advisor for the Nixon administration.


EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW - This is a true story of two kids who grew up on Wright-Patterson Air Force Base in Ohio and got their hands on some magical metal from the UFO that crashed in Roswell, New Mexico in 1947.

They didn’t just see or touch the metal; they tested the magical metal in many inventive ways.  What they discovered has been their secret since 1957.  Now, 59 years later, “Jill” has decided it’s safe to share the most memorable adventure of her life.

Cherokee Little People Were Real –This presentation was given at the Henderson County Heritage Museum in Hendersonville, NC on November 8, 2014.  The 38:12 minute video was taped by the museum.

Mary Joyce on the base at Pisgah – In this video, I talk about a secret underground military facility beneath the Balsam Ridge in Western North Carolina. It was taped in 2010 at the International UFO Congress in Laughlin, Nevada by Miles Johnson, a documentary filmmaker from Great Britain. This is version two because the first one mysteriously disappeared from the Internet. 
Sky Ships and Cosmic Spirituality – This is an hour long presentation Evelyn Gordon and I made at the International UFO Congress in Laughlin, Nevada in 2010.  It is the largest UFO conference in the world.




big pencil Books I've Written . . .

All my books are 8.5 x 11 inches in size and available through Amazon.
If you prefer to support an independent bookstore, then contact City Lights Bookstore in
Sylva, NC at 828-586-9499.


“BIGFOOT – Beyond the footprints” ~ There is so much more to know about the Bigfoot than their footprints.  They have families. They have made friends with some humans. They have helped and even rescued people in trouble. They have preferences, language and unique biology. This book presents all this and more as reported by eyewitnesses and research scientists. The book is visually appealing too.  There are color photos throughout the book.  It has a glossy cover and the pages are printed on high-quality paper. It easily qualifies as a coffee-table book . . . and a great conversation starter.

“Underground Military Bases Hidden in North Carolina Mountains” ~ There are military bases hidden beneath North Carolina’s mountains that most people have never heard about.  Remarkably, they are located near well-known tourist attractions: ● Great Smoky Mountains National Park ● Mount Mitchell State Park ● Linville Gorge ● Devil’s Courthouse on the Blue Ridge Parkway ● Chimney Rock State Park.  Yet, the underground facilities are so well camouflaged that few people know they exist. The information is mostly from those with military, law enforcement and high-security backgrounds.

“Cherokee Little People Were Real” ~ I wrote this book to help preserve a unique bit of American history that was about to disappear forever.  The book features testimonies of men who discovered ancient little tunnels, small skeletons and even a child-size skull with all its wisdom teeth when they were working on early construction projects at Western Carolina University in Cullowhee, NC.  Discoveries also were made at old moonshine and mining sites south of the campus. The book features lots of photos, including one of an intriguing face on an ancient metal oval. Other area mysteries – Judaculla Rock, Judaculla Giant and Bigfoot – are included.  Discovery sites are clearly pointed out on maps.

“Tangible evidence of Jesus left behind for us to find” ~ This was written for those who would like proof of Jesus beyond what is recorded in Christian Bibles.  It is intended to be a bridge between scholarly researchers and scientists and most of the rest of us.  The writing style deliberately is condensed and to the point for easy reading.  There are plenty of photos, art and graphics to help bring the information to life. I call it a picture book for adults because there are visuals on nearly every page.


CLICK HERE to read a chapter from “Tangible evidence of Jesus. . .” about Jesus’ travels in the Far East.  It was posted on the Dublin-based “Ancient Origins” website which features the latest archaeological findings as well as out-of-the-box perspectives on science, archaeology, mythology, religion and history around the globe.

The above four books are available through Amazon and
City Lights Bookstore in Sylva, NC at



A brief bio . . .

In addition to editing this website, I’ve worked for The Orlando Sentinel in Florida as an artist and columnist and The Oakland Press in Michigan as a Sunday magazine editor and then feature editor.

Because of this website and the books I’ve written, I’ve been a frequent guest on radio and TV shows including “Coast to Coast AM” which has an audience of about 3 million listeners, The Travel Channel and Internet TV shows in Ireland and Australia.

In addition to writing, my career includes working for a major metropolitan air pollution control agency, a community college, eight successful political campaigns, the world’s largest private printing company and a Fortune 100 company where I worked directly with many creative teams including those at Marvel Comics, Golden Books, Mr. Rogers, Berenstain Bears and Steven Spielberg’s “ET” book staff.


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